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Halcomb: The Relationship Between Mk. 14.2 and Jn. 18.28: Studies in Mark, Pt. 78TMWHhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06807155020816222182noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3839131113481621095.post-21982062600643693632008-11-09T12:02:00.000-08:002008-11-09T12:02:00.000-08:00Here's where I think the problem is: the solut...Here's where I think the problem is: the solution to this problem is not an either/or answer but a both/and answer.<br><br>In the same way that we can think of a 7 day period as a week but also comprehend the different 24 hour time periods within this week so also I believe the Jewish people could conceive of (and talk of) Passover as a week, but also recognize that on Nisan 15 they ate the actual feast of unleavened bread.<br><br>Of course the trick is to establish in any one context how the author is using the phrase. In the case of John 18:28 I think it is very hard to ignore "but that they might eat the passover" not as generally referring as some obscure cipher to the whole week but as the actual act of eating the Passover lamb. <br><br>I would be surprised to find evidence that suggested eating was an extended metaphor for festival ritual cleanliness, but you never know.<br><br>No SBL for me. it's unfortunate as it would be kind of cool to go back there, and I would assume, it will be the only time in my lifetime that SBL is going to be in the city I played NHL hockey in. Oh well, life goes on. I'll probably get there next year, or maybe I'll wait until they have it in K-zoo.Scott Baileyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17407216819056323566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3839131113481621095.post-17665670598932983862008-11-09T11:43:00.000-08:002008-11-09T11:43:00.000-08:00Scott,You're right that your last answer (in t...Scott,<br>You're right that your last answer (in the previous study) would have probably gone better here.<br><br>I am not at all suggesting that the people were incapable of defining things singularly, that is to miss the point of what I'm saying.<br><br>But I feel like you are ignoring the overwhelming amount of both OT and NT evidence that shows that "Passover" and "Feast of Unleavened Bread" were used synonymously.<br><br>Further, as I noted and James also picked up on, it is clear that "Preparation Day" was often used in two ways (which also muddles things). Could there have been 2 preparation days, you may be onto something there. But even this shows that things weren't always defined singularly, though they sometimes were.<br><br>I have said time and time again, too, that Mt. is the one account that doesn't use the FOUB & Passover synonymously. So, I am well aware that this can happen. Even in John's work, it is not always used synonymously. <br><br>But if I were to be honest, I feel like you're overlooking strong evidences that the terms were used as one in the same. Sure, not always, but certainly, sometimes. What I am suggesting, then, is that in this case, it makes sense that they were used synonymously.<br><br>As to why it is "entirely unconvincing" to you, I do not know. But (and please, take this with a grain of salt as I am not attacking you or anything like that) it seems to me that you lean towards the more rigid view that you were accusing me of in the beginning. I have admitted that there are numerous ways to view the problem but that this one holds up the best (in my view). <br><br>I have yet to hear you say anything like this. Of course, you can remain unconvinced and that's all fine and good but I feel like you're just blowing off the suggestions I'm making (like many staunch evangelicals that I know would; not that you are one of them or even close to one of them but I'm just saying that's how the discussion is feeling as of late).<br><br>The last three posts have all been attempts to work through the issue and arrive at the conclusion I find most suitable. What I have written so far encompasses that. Please, keep challenging and pushing the conversation. Thanks, Scott. By the way, are you going to SBL?<br><br>-michaelT. Michael W. Halcombhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01119080394574322124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3839131113481621095.post-63771666611290712282008-11-09T07:33:00.000-08:002008-11-09T07:33:00.000-08:00Michael,I still find this sort of reasoning entire...Michael,<br><br>I still find this sort of reasoning entirely unconvincing. Basically, no one had the ability to define anything definitely of singularly. Nisan 14 was Nisan 15 so it's all the same. See my comment on last post that apparently I should have saved for this one.<br><br>There is one thing I am in agreement with you however: "In the end, Jesus, who is killed during Passover, is viewed as the Passover sacrifice."Scott Baileyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17407216819056323566noreply@blogger.com