I think Jesus the man was enabled by God, specifically the person of the Spirit. Since God is omnipotent, it is hard for me to conceptualize seperate persons using power differently. It would seem to be a joint action in some way.
This is the most ridiculous question I can think of asking. It is impossible to answer. It is a question that gospel writers never would have considered. As if they offer reliable historical evidence to begin with. . .
David, Thanks for your reply. Have you read any Moltmann? He addresses this theological issue you bring up in a most fascinating and appealing way.
Anonymous, This is not a ridiculous question at all (and certainly not the "most" ridiculous one that could be asked). I think your assumptions about the Gospel writers not addressing this are errant. I mean, look at the opening chapter of Mark's Gospel. It's not until after Jesus' baptism where the Spirit comes upon Him that we read of Him doing anything at all. The same is true in the other Gospels. Evidently, you have no familiarity with Church history because this type of question has been pondered for years now. Read up, please.
David, I loved "The Trinity and The Kingdom"...it is an excellent book and while in-depth, a page-turner. I think the first time I read through it was in a day or two. I absolutely love it. Another good one in his little series by Fortress is "The Way Of The Kingdom". I would highly encourage you to get these two books by Moltmann. I don't know how interested you are in this subject but you might also check out some stuff by Colin Gunton, his stuff is fabulous. Of course, Pannenberg is good too. My favorite book of all is "The Social God and the Relational Self". Indeed, this may be the best book I've ever read! Hope that's enough for the Xmas list!
By the way, I didn't mean for that last comment to sound like Pannenburg wrote the "social God and the relational self". that was written by Stan Grenz.
I think Jesus the man was enabled by God, specifically the person of the Spirit. Since God is omnipotent, it is hard for me to conceptualize seperate persons using power differently. It would seem to be a joint action in some way.
ReplyDeleteThis is the most ridiculous question I can think of asking. It is impossible to answer. It is a question that gospel writers never would have considered. As if they offer reliable historical evidence to begin with. . .
ReplyDeleteDavid,
ReplyDeleteThanks for your reply. Have you read any Moltmann? He addresses this theological issue you bring up in a most fascinating and appealing way.
Anonymous,
This is not a ridiculous question at all (and certainly not the "most" ridiculous one that could be asked). I think your assumptions about the Gospel writers not addressing this are errant. I mean, look at the opening chapter of Mark's Gospel. It's not until after Jesus' baptism where the Spirit comes upon Him that we read of Him doing anything at all. The same is true in the other Gospels. Evidently, you have no familiarity with Church history because this type of question has been pondered for years now. Read up, please.
Michael,
ReplyDeleteDefinitely agree with you assessment of Mr. Anonymous' comment.
I haven't read any Moltmann, but I will certainly look up some stuff for the Christmas wish list. Any recommendations?
David,
ReplyDeleteI loved "The Trinity and The Kingdom"...it is an excellent book and while in-depth, a page-turner. I think the first time I read through it was in a day or two. I absolutely love it. Another good one in his little series by Fortress is "The Way Of The Kingdom". I would highly encourage you to get these two books by Moltmann. I don't know how interested you are in this subject but you might also check out some stuff by Colin Gunton, his stuff is fabulous. Of course, Pannenberg is good too. My favorite book of all is "The Social God and the Relational Self". Indeed, this may be the best book I've ever read! Hope that's enough for the Xmas list!
By the way, I didn't mean for that last comment to sound like Pannenburg wrote the "social God and the relational self". that was written by Stan Grenz.
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